About WisDumb

Two long-time friends and musicians talk about music, life, society, technology and so many other fun and interesting things in this podcast aimed at trying to understand why we get dumber as we get wiser.
Joey Gabra

Joey Gabra

Host

Father of three, marketing master, photographer, web designer, entrepreneur, oh and one badass guitarist. Joey is the host of WisDumb Podcast and when he’s not traveling the world for business, he’s raising a family and loving his life.

Kelly Kusumoto

Kelly Kusumoto

Co-Host

Kelly is a game writer, blogger, graphic designer, musician, video editor, and co-host of WisDumb Podcast. When he’s not doing any of the above, he’s playing ice hockey, traveling, taking photographs, swimming, or reading.